3:24pm 07-25-2011

majaczek

there are two options to play new AL:
1) don't rename any scripts to three letter just use files from sagamosa archive
that way there will be no burden of incompabilities but only a few wog options is availible.
2) copy only script118.erm all rest generate by renaming all your old scriptxx.erx to script0xx.erx
this way it works both AL nad SU scripts. a few tiny changes will be ommited, but the scripts other than 118 are outdated, so then better that way if you want to play, not just test

I've done myself variant of (2) - some SU scripts replaced with wogmod version (the ones from doom3d unofficial patch) which somewhat rebalances it. i do not use new script files (new numbers) from wogmod, because of there are some issues with *.ers files (and by this way it's added to wog options), and some options are same as some abilities from AL (eg. shamanic run for everyone). i also have same files in scriptxx.erx so if i want to play without AL i just launch plain h3wog.exe (AL uses same option number as one wog option)

10:07am 07-25-2011

Adrian

I tried but I get the same VNC error.

@majaczek...can u make a copy of your s folder, archive it and send it to me? Also can you send me the copy of your settings (the *.dat file). It's so frustrating that I can't even get it to start. Thx a lot

@ sagamosa - thanks for the files but as I mentioned above still can't get it to run past wogification step. Is it possible to make an archive of your Heroes folder and upload it somewhere (www.transfer.ro accepts up to 1GB per file free sharing). Thanks a lot

4:21pm 07-24-2011

majaczek

i found the guilty for incompability with 358fSU - the new-old script000.erm from al package
it lack a few basic macros. the macros are called by other macros so VNCopy bug was.

I got compatible 358fsu + AL script.
once i launched it wogifies fine. but once my hero (grindan) get star magic and i press magic book on adventure interface the bug pop ups.
there are sure glitches on your hero counting routine (as it is not incompability because same when AL-only setup ran

erm error here http://pastebin.com/rX9RJpCP

3:44pm 07-24-2011

majaczek

life magic don't work on witch (it has ability to choose first AL)

and i found the old bug again (the one of previous AL script)

-----------------------
ERM syntax Error.
File: erm
Line: 6692
Reason:
"HE$"-cannot find hero (out of range).

Save all ERM vars to WOGERMLOG.TXT (may take time)?
-----------------------
-----Context-----
Py-42/y-43/y-44 Oy-45 ; place hero back on map on original spot, give back color
!!OW:O-1/?y-1/?y-2/?y-3/?y-4/?y-5/?y-6/?y-7/?y-8/?y-9; all heroes current player has
!!OW.....
-----------------
COMMON VARS
f=0
g=0
h=0
i=1
j=0
k=0
l=0
m=0
n=0
o=0
p=0
q=0
r=0
s=0
t=0
Common flags (1...1000)
flag2=1
flag873=1
flag999=1
flag1000=1
Common v vars (v1...v10000)
v9=-1
v31=5
v70=15
v71=10
v508=1
v549=7
v550=1
v551=2
v552=4
v553=8
v554=16
v555=32
v556=64
v557=128
v558=256
v559=512
v560=1024
v564=7
v565=7
v566=7
v567=7
v568=7
v569=7
v570=7
v571=6
v573=36
v574=72
v575=1
v576=1097
v578=3
v579=132
v600=-1
v601=18
v602=24
v603=30
v604=32
v605=33
v606=34
v607=35
v608=36
v609=40
v610=44
v611=59
v612=72
v613=86
v614=87
v615=88
v616=89
v617=90
v618=93
v619=115
v620=123
v621=124
v622=126
v624=-1
v628=17
v629=95
v630=2
v631=3
v632=1
v633=1
v635=17
v636=97
v637=2
v638=-1
v640=1
v642=17
v643=100
v644=2
v645=-1
v647=1
v649=16
v650=12
v651=2
v652=3
v653=1
v654=2
v656=16
v657=17
v658=2
v659=-1
v661=1
v663=16
v664=18
v665=2
v666=-1
v668=1
v670=63
v671=10
v672=2
v673=1
v675=1
v677=63
v678=13
v679=2
v680=3
v682=1
v684=63
v685=12
v686=2
v687=2
v689=1
v700=25
v701=21
v702=18
v703=15
v704=13
v705=11
v706=9
v707=7
v708=6
v709=5
v710=5
v711=5
v712=4
v713=4
v714=4
v715=4
v716=4
v717=3
v718=3
v719=3
v950=1
v952=46
v953=51
v955=94
v956=6
v957=72
v958=1
v997=-1
v998=4
v999=10
v1215=10
v1338=1
v1500=-1
v1552=-1
v2371=1
v2372=2
v2373=3
v2374=4
v2375=5
v2376=6
v2377=7
v2381=1
v2382=2
v2383=3
v2384=4
v2385=5
v2386=6
v2387=7
v2388=1
v2389=1
v2390=4
v2392=3
v2393=3
v2395=1
v2396=1
v3333=3333
v3500=7777
v4857=1
Hero's vars (w1...w200)
Hero#=0
w190=1
Hero#=1
w176=-1
w177=-1
w178=-1
w179=1
w185=3
w190=21
Hero#=2
w190=1
Hero#=3
w190=1
Hero#=4
w190=1
Hero#=5
w190=1
Hero#=6
w190=1
Hero#=7
w190=1
Hero#=8
w190=1
Hero#=9
w190=1
Hero#=10
w190=1
Hero#=11
w190=1
Hero#=12
w190=1
Hero#=13
w176=200002
w177=20
w178=303
w179=500
w185=1
w190=21
Hero#=14
w190=1
Hero#=15
w190=1
Hero#=16
w190=1
Hero#=17
w190=1
Hero#=18
w190=1
Hero#=19
w190=1
Hero#=20
w190=1
Hero#=21
w190=1
Hero#=22
w190=1
Hero#=23
w176=-23135
w177=-8
w178=301
w179=200000
w190=25
Hero#=24
w190=1
Hero#=25
w190=1
Hero#=26
w190=1
Hero#=27
w190=1
Hero#=28
w190=1
Hero#=29
w190=1
Hero#=30
w176=200032
w177=11
w178=410
w179=1001
w190=21
Hero#=31
w190=1
Hero#=32
w190=1
Hero#=33
w190=1
Hero#=34
w190=1
Hero#=35
w190=1
Hero#=36
w190=1
Hero#=37
w190=1
Hero#=38
w190=1
Hero#=39
w176=1
w177=-3
w178=-3
w179=-1
w190=21
Hero#=40
w190=1
Hero#=41
w190=1
Hero#=42
w190=1
Hero#=43
w190=1
Hero#=44
w176=200003
w177=2
w178=404
w179=503
w190=21
Hero#=45
w190=1
Hero#=46
w190=1
Hero#=47
w190=1
Hero#=48
w190=1
Hero#=49
w190=1
Hero#=50
w190=1
Hero#=51
w190=1
Hero#=52
w190=1
Hero#=53
w190=1
Hero#=54
w190=1
Hero#=55
w176=300000
w177=-7
w178=-5
w179=-7
w190=22
Hero#=56
w176=200031
w177=10
w178=411
w179=1003
w190=25
Hero#=57
w190=1
Hero#=58
w190=1
Hero#=59
w190=1
Hero#=60
w190=1
Hero#=61
w190=1
Hero#=62
w190=1
Hero#=63
w190=1
Hero#=64
w190=1
Hero#=65
w190=1
Hero#=66
w190=1
Hero#=67
w190=1
Hero#=68
w190=1
Hero#=69
w190=1
Hero#=70
w176=200001
w177=-10
w178=302
w179=-9
w190=21
Hero#=71
w190=1
Hero#=72
w190=1
Hero#=73
w190=1
Hero#=74
w190=1
Hero#=75
w190=1
Hero#=76
w176=200033
w177=12
w178=412
w179=1013
w190=21
Hero#=77
w190=1
Hero#=78
w190=1
Hero#=79
w190=1
Hero#=80
w190=1
Hero#=81
w190=1
Hero#=82
w190=1
Hero#=83
w190=1
Hero#=84
w176=-2
w177=-2
w178=-2
w179=-2
w185=2
w190=21
Hero#=85
w190=1
Hero#=86
w190=1
Hero#=87
w190=1
Hero#=88
w190=1
Hero#=89
w190=1
Hero#=90
w190=1
Hero#=91
w176=200004
w177=3
w178=405
w179=1005
w190=21
Hero#=92
w190=1
Hero#=93
w190=1
Hero#=94
w190=1
Hero#=95
w190=1
Hero#=96
w190=1
Hero#=97
w190=1
Hero#=98
w190=1
Hero#=99
w176=-4
w177=-5
w178=213
w179=303
w190=21
Hero#=100
w190=1
Hero#=101
w190=1
Hero#=102
w190=1
Hero#=103
w190=1
Hero#=104
w190=1
Hero#=105
w190=1
Hero#=106
w190=1
Hero#=107
w190=1
Hero#=108
w190=1
Hero#=109
w190=1
Hero#=110
w190=1
Hero#=111
w176=200010
w177=8
w178=408
w179=1010
w190=21
Hero#=112
w190=1
Hero#=113
w190=1
Hero#=114
w176=-5
w177=-6
w178=300
w179=-6
w190=21
Hero#=115
w190=1
Hero#=116
w190=1
Hero#=117
w190=1
Hero#=118
w190=1
Hero#=119
w190=1
Hero#=120
w190=1
Hero#=121
w190=1
Hero#=122
w190=1
Hero#=123
w190=1
Hero#=124
w190=1
Hero#=125
w190=1
Hero#=126
w190=1
Hero#=127
w176=200006
w177=9
w178=409
w179=1011
w185=1
w190=21
Hero#=128
w190=1
Hero#=129
w190=1
Hero#=130
w190=1
Hero#=131
w190=1
Hero#=132
w190=1
Hero#=133
w190=1
Hero#=134
w190=1
Hero#=135
w190=1
Hero#=136
w190=1
Hero#=137
w190=1
Hero#=138
w190=1
Hero#=139
w190=1
Hero#=140
w190=1
Hero#=141
w190=1
Hero#=142
w190=1
Hero#=143
w190=1
Hero#=144
w190=1
Hero#=145
w190=1
Hero#=146
w190=1
Hero#=147
w190=1
Hero#=148
w190=1
Hero#=149
w190=1
Hero#=150
w190=1
Hero#=151
w190=1
Hero#=152
w190=1
Hero#=153
w190=1
Hero#=154
w190=1
Hero#=155
w190=1

TRIGGER BASED VARS
Trigger y vars (y-1...y-100)
y-20="159"
y-25="-1"
y-30="159"
y-35="-1"
y-40="159"
y-45="-1"
y-47="50"
y-48="51"
y-49="52"
y-50="53"
y-51="54"
Trigger e vars (e-1...e-100)

FUNCTION BASED VARS
Parameters x vars (x1...x16)
x1="4"
Local y vars (y1...y100)
Local e vars (e1...e100)

STRING VARS
Common z vars (z1...z1000)
z1="Invisibility"
z2=" "
z3=" "
z4=" "
z5=" "
z249="Sorcerer's Tower"
z304="Magic Pouch

Inside the Magic Pouch you can put up to three different artefacts and maintain their primary skills bonuses the same way as if they were equipped! (all other artefact bonuses will be lost!)

You'll get information on input artefacts by right clicking on the Pouch."
z305="Magic Pouch"
z306="Construction site"
z307="Soulbinding Sword"
z308="Soulbinding Shield"
z309="Soulbinding Armor"
z320="Soulbinding Helmet"
z321="One Ring"
z322="

As a Dark Lord you gained a mastery of the dark arts of making the Rings of Power. You wrought yourself the most powerful ring, the One Ring, which adds +5 to all your primary skills and gives you power to wield the other rings from afar (gaining additional +1 to all primary skills for every Ring under your command)."
z323="Mithril Smelter"
z324="Mithril Smelter (owned by red player) "
z325="Mithril Smelter (owned by blue player)"
z332="Fliers don't fly, but aren't retaliated against."
z333="Fast creatures are slow, slow ones fast."
z334="Creatures are half-price on day 7 each week."
z335="Heroes create Magic Plains each day."
z336="Creatures attack twice."
z337="Creatures in armies grow by 4 percent each day."
z338="Creature dwellings also sell Boars."
z339="Heroes start at 5th Level."
z340="Artifacts on the map are found in pairs."
z341="Perpetual darkness."
z342="Heroes move twice as far."
z343="Mines change resources each week."
z344="Teaching objects can be revisited each month."
z345="Heroes can have 10 Skills."
z346="7th level creatures upgrade to 8th Level."
z347="Heroes are given an artifact each level."
z348="Rogues ambush the unwary."
z349="Creatures have breath weapons."
z350="Shooters don't shoot, but have more hit points."
z351="Each town has a Grail."
z352="Thant"
z353="Artillery"
z354="he"
z367="Mithril Smelter (owned by tan player)"
z408="Mithril Smelter (owned by green player)"
z409="Mithril Smelter (owned by orange player)"
z410="Mithril Smelter (owned by purple player)"
z411="Mithril Smelter (owned by teal player)"
z412="Mithril Smelter (owned by pink player)"
z413="Rune Stone"
z414="Steel Chanfron"
z415="Steel Crinet with Paytrell"
z416="Steel Crupper"
z417="Light Chanfron"
z418="Light Crinet with Paytrell"
z419="Light Crupper"
z420="Golden Horseshoes"
z429="Advanced University

(Learn basic secondary skills for 2000 gold or improve a basic secondary skill for 3000 gold.)"
z680="Each town has a Warlord's Banners in front of it."
z805="Upgraded Water Wheel"
z806="Upgraded Windmill"
z807="Upgraded Water Wheel (Visited)"
z808="Upgraded Windmill (Visited)"
Local z vars (z-1...z-10)
z-1="159"
z-2="Orrin"
z-6="-1"
z-9="chance"
z-10="skill60.pcx"

5:20pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

with death magic and opening adventure spellbook erm error appears.

5:04pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

i've made a map to test AL (much mithril and 2x8 heroes each diffrerent class + permanent +exp events) and pimped up all my heroes but clavius to 20 lvl, and when clavius got soul slaves skill it throwed zvslib error. IDK if it is because of SS or of overload, however it played further ok.

if i read properly it had some problem with dialog box itself.

4:14pm 07-23-2011

Some guy

I see. Well, if you knew about something based on wog and in (real development)...or in case you are planning to do some mods by yourself, some ideas from following stuff might be worth considering(i hope everything is):
*Battle extender does not affect wog creatures(I love that script, so its pity)
*Hero speciality boost is way too much overpowered on creatures(original specialities are useless on them though). I would suggest rigid bonuses like 2 def 1 dmg on 2nd level monster, which dont grow with lvls because with growing unit stack relative efficiency of even stable boost also grows. And some other specialities should be reworked. This way it could be allowed for network battles.
*8th. level dwelling dont accumulate creatures even when"works like normal dwelling" and " dwelling accumulate creatures" are both enabled.(I belive this option would be interesting while not being imba)
*About AI:Sometimes PC players stuck sitting and dont do anything.
*For me is very important script "neutral unit bonuses". Makes me think about neutrals, game is more difficult. But ist hard to beat neutrals with new hero, so I guess bonuses should be partly dependant on hero level, say 60%. I am not sure about restricting this option furthermore( maximum possible bonus or little weaker bonus on stronger monsters), anyway neutrals should remain serious threat, what you have to think about.

*Diplomacy is too strong. If it was upon me, I would remove possibility joining hero for no gold.

*Some spells benefit from higher secondary skill level more than others(basic/expert slow is mega difference, but basic/expert implosion or magic arrow is difference of 2 spell power-mainly lvl 4 and 5 dont benefit)not sure whether improving just bonus or improving spell power multiplier is better choice.

...I cant remember more now. I found very little information about Master of pupputs mod(and no information about phoenix mod). Can you tell me if Master of puppets is compatible with wog? Is there a possibility to turn off scripts like there is in wog? Thank you in advance for any answer.

3:52pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

well 3 effect spell with cure and duration didn't work as I intended.
cure was casted once. i thought it should act each turn, but it may be too powerfull maybe

3:45pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

well attacking spells work if they are single targeted.
but i spotted another bug: spellforge menu only counts things when increased and only relative - that means if you add more attack but you find it too expensive and decrase it doesn't cecrase cost, then when you incrase again through the limit the cost increase again. you can make 100mana 10attack spell if repeated much. however player may cancel and try again. but still a bug.

3:37pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

well mass attack spell works only if merged with berseker. sad.
i'll try other spells with spellforge.
however mass attack berseker spell may not work as you intended.
it looks like - you cast spell - all bersekered - one attack another - all enemy stacks get hurted

3:29pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

well spellforge works if you do not make too stuffed spell.
however the attack part, when mass efect is applied only after the unit is attacked.

(make yourself mass berseker + attack spell with turn duration - better than armagedon )

3:17pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

nevermind it only loops until you place rune in valid place, so no problem about refund, but perhaps player could wish to abort placing something? however new object placing option is great both for the towers and runes

3:13pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

i found a bug with runes. if you choose to erect rune and click to far away from hero you don't place rune but mithril isn't refunded

2:49pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

i found a bug with spellforge. after playing with spellforge i loaded earlier save (lv<20) and leveled for spellforge. the earlier spells were there for free!

also i it desired that heroes in tavern with 5lvl haven't their first AL?

2:35pm 07-23-2011

majaczek

hey i made really great spell by spellforge, but every turn in battle it gives error.
spell has no name, 3 effects both types of damage and mass effect and duration.
it didn't applied the damage but rest works. i'll try with simplier spells.

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